Bug Classified Listing Gone?

[Mick]

Hi Mokonzi,

I cannot really explain this one apart from to give you a link to the item itself. which has vanished from the listings (apart from direct URL access)

Viewing Listing: For sale.VU+DUO2 - Buy Sell Wanteds on Digitalworldz Classifieds Adverts

basically if its sold then how would I know that it has been sold? Also, how do I know who bought it? what method they used to buy it?

If it was not sold then how would I know what has happened?



Mick

 

[Mokonzi]

As Admin you can see what listings are in the system even if not visible in the front end.

If a user has bought an item, the system will immediately notify the buyer of the sale (or when the auction completes) and the item becomes invisible to general users. At this point the seller and the buyer can see the item in their My Classifieds and My Listings pages, though the My Classifieds page has a little bit more information of the current state of transactions, etc.

Does that help?

One issue I know about that I want to resolve in the next update is that My Classifieds and My Listings are limited to a set amount of days. That time frame needs to be customizable but also allow users to get access to older listings. Older listings can only be found when looking at a user's feedback history. I might make it possible to 'archive' old/redundant or completed listings. I'll see what I can get included ready for the RC2 update.

 

[Mick]

That would be good Mokonzi,

I just felt as an admin a little in the dark, I did not know what has happened...

Is there anywhere that I can see who bought it from the seller?

My moderators have already asked me what happened to that listing lol... and I do not know what to tell them?

Thanks for all your hard work and hopefully I am not being too annoying

Cheers
Mick

 

[Mokonzi]

I'll add in the buyer/winner details for RC2 in a section that can be usergroup controlled. Looking at it again now I realized that it will be tricky to simply put up the buyer... multiple item buy-it-nows might have more than one buyer...

In the mean time, find the Listing ID and then search in the Manage Offer's part of the ACP for that listing ID. You'll see the transaction status.

One of the conundrums I've had all the way through the Classifieds project is that it's not like most mods... a lot of users want privacy in financial transactions... so getting the balance between information and privacy will always be an issue.

But thank you for the suggestions and feedback. Keep them coming. It helps me make sure we've got what we need in the mod and to know if things are working well for the you users.

 

[Mick]

I agree completely that you have duty to the buyers/sellers to protect them , and it is a fine line to judge.

But only for the admin group might be a good idea, or select usergroups.

But the idea about archiving is brilliant

It would be perfect if the listing can never be cut off (or even a cut off option somewhere), and to further that a SOLD banner that went across the images or some kind of way to show the item was sold would be brilliant.

Because for me personally it would be good for google to spider that page, a guest then finds it but at the same time that guest can also look around and maybe find something else and join, or join and sell something similar

Thank you!

 

[Mokonzi]

Thanks for the comments. The sold idea is good as well. I'll see what we can sneak into the next update.

 

[Mick]

A quick one, where do i find the listing ID?

I put in 9 as I thought that was it as it was item number 9 but it says no items are available?

Also I do not want to bombard you but the main search does not work on my site no items show up at all

Thanks Mokonzi

Mick

 

[Mokonzi]

Don't worry about the questions.

The search might be because all the listings have 'expired'. The item/listing number isn't the easiest to find (again I'll look at making this a bit more visible). We track each item (so if a listing has ten items for sale, there are ten ListingItemIDs) and link it to a particular Listing. Best way is to hover over the Edit Listing option and you'll see the ListingID at the end of the URL. Something like: &action=viewlisting&listingid=32.

You could look for the listing in the Manage Listing section of the ACP which should also show you the Listing ID in the URL. I'll make that part of the title information in the next update.

If you have got the right Listing ID and if no Offers show... check the end date for the listing in the Manage Listings section... if it's marked as Ended... or the end date is before the current time then that would also be why it's disappeared from the radar.

PS... I'm not sure what's causing the search issue... search works fine on my install. :S

 

[Mick]

Hi Mokonzi,

Is this where you was saying that the item ID would be?

It seems that the stock on this item is 0, I guess that is because it sold?



Cheers Mokonzi.

Mick

 

[Mokonzi]

Looks like it to me. Have you checked with the user? It might be that they set the stock to 0... but that should error out... in which case it must have sold.

 

[Mokonzi]

As Admin you can see what listings are in the system even if not visible in the front end.

If a user has bought an item, the system will immediately notify the buyer of the sale (or when the auction completes) and the item becomes invisible to general users. At this point the seller and the buyer can see the item in their My Classifieds and My Listings pages, though the My Classifieds page has a little bit more information of the current state of transactions, etc.

Does that help?

One issue I know about that I want to resolve in the next update is that My Classifieds and My Listings are limited to a set amount of days. That time frame needs to be customizable but also allow users to get access to older listings. Older listings can only be found when looking at a user's feedback history. I might make it possible to 'archive' old/redundant or completed listings. I'll see what I can get included ready for the RC2 update.

These mentioned features are ready for RC2.

 

[Mokonzi]

Hi Mokonzi,

Is this where you was saying that the item ID would be?

It seems that the stock on this item is 0, I guess that is because it sold?

View attachment 5242

Cheers Mokonzi.

Mick

Just reread this message and want to clear something up. The section you've highlighted in the Items for the listing (in the database I call them listingitems). There will be a ID for each listingitem that is most likely not the same as the ID we use for the listing itself.

In the simplest terms... if we post our first listing in the database with 5 stock items... the Listing ID will be 1, and the Items will each have a ListingItem ID starting at 1 all the way through to 5.

RC2 now shows the Listing ID where the Edit Listing bit is. It also shows it on the page before which displays all the available listings.

 

[Mick]

Just reread this message and want to clear something up. The section you've highlighted in the Items for the listing (in the database I call them listingitems). There will be a ID for each listingitem that is most likely not the same as the ID we use for the listing itself.

In the simplest terms... if we post our first listing in the database with 5 stock items... the Listing ID will be 1, and the Items will each have a ListingItem ID starting at 1 all the way through to 5.

RC2 now shows the Listing ID where the Edit Listing bit is. It also shows it on the page before which displays all the available listings.

Cheers Mokonzi, I think I get it

The listing ID would be the actual page that shows the item
The Item ID would be where each individual item gets an ID (I.e when you have say 20 stock of the same item).

Is that right?

But what you have implemented sounds perfect!

Regards
Mick

 

[Mokonzi]

Yep. That's right. I'm working on the Usergroup permissions for seeing the buyers and implementing that atm. Should be done for RC2.

 

[Mokonzi]

That would be good Mokonzi,

I just felt as an admin a little in the dark, I did not know what has happened...

Is there anywhere that I can see who bought it from the seller?

My moderators have already asked me what happened to that listing lol... and I do not know what to tell them?

Thanks for all your hard work and hopefully I am not being too annoying

Cheers
Mick

In RC2 users can now be given permissions to see the buyers (the seller always sees this info) and if they can they see a list of buyers for the item(s) for the listing.

 

[Mokonzi]

In RC2 the view listing page contains a 'Sold' notice if the item that the person is viewing has been sold.